I have 2 Timneys installed, one on a 34.4 & 34.3. I stripped the entire frame and can't seem to find the issue. Im a little ahead of you on this path. If it does, its hitting that bump too high. Your link has been automatically embedded. and Mrs. America turn in your guns' - I would have!". If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. JavaScript is disabled. I noticed that even after one dry-fire, the recoil spring assembly drops down a little bit when I take the slide off the frame. Sorry about that. Like polishing amounts? It's as if the holding of the trigger is holding back the slide somehow. Have you tried a different firing pin spring? It is one of the dual captured springs, so there doesn't appear to be much that can be done to "fix" anything. Thanks for the info. I can swap the sli. NWGlocker Registered Joined Aug 12, 2010 Building a V2 soon. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I agree with comments a few others have already made that Timney triggers are not necessarily a simple drop in. None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. Does the gun run OK or is it failing to go into battery during live fire? Could be too long and hitting the extractor bar/spring thingy and not letting the extractor get up over the case rim. It did shoot fine. What you describe sounds exactly like what's happening. I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me. Polish inside the slide rail use 400 to 600 grit sand paper filed on thr edge of a credit card and full length back and fourth along the entire rail slots and the clean out and try fit on frame, better to repeat often and check for fit than tale too much. Got back to the range today happened a little less (still did not get any factory ammo yet) After looking at the slide there is some ware marks at some points and thinking maybe this might be little to thick on the coating i could be wrong just a thought. Or like actually hitting it with a file some? I will give anything a try because I can't afford to just eat the cost of this slide and buy a new one. The tools. can your extractor move freely? since it started when you changed the connector, it sounds like its an assembly issue. The slide stops with the top bullet in the magazine stuck against the feed ramp. Maybe ne messed something up in the slide. Upload or insert images from URL. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. Its light but mushy. Make sure your slide lock spring is all the way flush with the inside channel. I am still useing the stock recoil spring and striker spring. Its light but mushy. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. I don't know if that is the problem, but thank you for trying to help. I have a brand new Gen4 Glock 17, which the only "upgrade" I have done is change the connector to a Taran Tactical one. If it would close unless you let the trigger forwardthen it fails the test. I will say that I just set up a new Zev Glock 17 with RMR, and my usual loads ran the gun just fine, but (without checking) the Zev slide seems lighter than the OEM Glock one it replaced. Hope you were able to get yours sorted out. "If I could have banned them all - 'Mr. If I sling shot the slide it works fine but I can't remember any of my other Glocks having problems getting them to go back into battery while riding the slide(when dry firing). You must log in or register to reply here. You are using an out of date browser. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. Sometimes they go in crooked and stick up a bit. This is also why I ended up trying the Timney. It does once I release (reset) the trigger. I would pull and hold the trigger, rack the slide and it wouldn't return completely to battery until I released some tension on the trigger. Never an issue with limp wristing so far. Glad you got it fixed. Paste as plain text instead, Matter of fact, I have a couple of triggers from Charlie Vanek that he used a Lone Wolf connector in that he had tuned up. One new winner* is announced every week! you say its FTRTB (failing to return to battery) when allowing the slide to slam forward (not riding it slowly) I could only guess something wasnt put together properly. It's working fine now. Display as a link instead, February 21, 2022 in Glock. 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. You can post now and register later. I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? Hope yours breaks in and the issue clears itself up. This is a brand new firearm and before you fired even one round down range you took it apart and modified it thus you have no baseline performence to know what the firearm was doing before you "improved" it. A Glock is one of the easiest pistols to work on and we have pleanty of content for you to learn more about this pistol. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. I dont get it, youve been shooting a G34 for quite some time, then you cant get a Timney trigger to work so youre ready to try a Sig? what I was trying to reference was the ' striker safety spring'. Haha). In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I can't figure out how the trigger would cause that kind of malfunction anyway, but it's the only change I've made before the malfunction started. Have you tried the field test for the RSA? Pasted as rich text. I have never really seen the need for an "armorer" when working with my Glocks. I checked this (recoil spring drops a little) on my Glock. You can post now and register later. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. Have you made a change in ammo or reloading component lately? Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Looking for help. It only hangs up if I hold the trigger back as if shooting off the reset. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. Is this normal with these mods? I plan on speaking to Glock tomorrow now that I have a bit of an idea. It appears that the safety plunger spring was laying sideways instead of inside the safety plunger. A bit off the Timney topic, but you might try a Lone Wolf connector with the Overwatch trigger. I should have added this in the OP. Tapping on the magazine or back of the slide gets the round to chamber. I tired changing the connector back to the original and nothing changed. I knew it was wrong cause I have a factory G17 gen 3. But about 1-2 rounds out of 100 it wouldnt quite go in to battery and Id need to tap the back of the slide slightly to seat it (started off at like 3 in 5 rounds). Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. Your previous content has been restored. Riding the slide is not recommended so not letting the slide run forward untouched should make it OK, IMO. LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? Upload or insert images from URL. Eject it. If it does, you may want to look into a ligher recoil spring kit to continue using your existing loads. All Rights Reserved. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. plunger spring or firing pin spring so i would leave the alone. I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. If you see light off-center strikes it may well be. If it goes into battery completely then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Another test I've seen done is to load a magazine completely full. Clear editor. Things to note on a P80 is that the rails are sometimes not within spec for earlier models. One mag in particular was the worst. This allowed the rear trigger housing to raise up and give me battery/jamming issues as well. Is this RSA going to $hit already? Thank you! The trigger bar and connector are polished but no metal reshaped or removed. I still want a few more range trips before i start carrying it daily again but it seems we are on the right track. I put about 600 through it with the extensions with no issues. When you are normally shooting, your trigger is still pulled back when the slide returns. Usually, what the OP is describing is a problem somewhere else in the gun. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. My glock 19 doesn't go back into battery until I reset the trigger. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. The slide isn't meant to be let down easy during normal use. "first thing i would check is your connector tension, if there is too much tension it will restrict slide movement". I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. If not HELP PLEASE! Is this RSA going to $hit already? The simple thing seems to be that something did not go back together right. Lord, make me fast and accurate. Limp wristing one handed wasn't the issue as it happened with both hands first. I'm hoping that shooting it will solve it. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Any ideas on what the issue might be? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. From personal experience I recommend a factory connector. I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. I'm wondering if it could be a defective recoil spring? Your previous content has been restored. thats one of my fears. Knock on wood but I think I may have figured it out with help from many of your suggestions. One way to discover if it is or isn't the problem is get out your calipers and measure along the slide rail slots in many places for each slide rail slot and then your front locking block slide rail and rear slide rails and the numbers will tell you if it's the problem or not. Just a thought. I'm in California), but then it stops going forward just short of going into battery. JavaScript is disabled. check the recoil spring. Pics to come soon. I wonder if it doesn't have enough pressure to hold itself in place. -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria, This is a decent video to check out to double check. I've shot pistols for a while and also have a g17. I plan on winning the lottery soon so I'll have much more free time in the future. I like the idea of using a second gun to diagnose. 2. the Trigger spring may not have been re-installed properly causing the sear to hang when the slide tries to return to battery I just noticed that in my previous post that the word 'Spring' sprung out of the post. is your locking block seated correctly? A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I know a few guys who shoot sigs and its starting to feel like Ive been trying to make my gun perform more like theirs. No aftermarket parts except Night Sights on a Glock that is going to be a Self Defense Weapon. You cannot paste images directly. Wish I could look at it directly. No lube should be needed on RSA. It has failed to return fully to battery once but every other time, it's a brief hesitation then it snaps into battery. Did not have any problems before I had this milled. While you are on our site, don't forget to check out our Glock Frame Disassembly, Glock Frame Reassembly, Glock Slide Disassembly and Reassembly as well as Glock Field Strip videos to learn more about the Glock pistols. In using it, ive experienced several failure to fires. I agree, but Ive pretty much ruled out the recoil spring, and it seems crazy that four extensions and springs from henning and Dawson would all have the same malfunction. I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. It had 2056 through it. That's one reason why using the slide stop is more reliable than pulling back on the slide; because some times shooters will pull it back but then also ease it forward removing momentum and causing the gun to not lock up properly. Yes Glocks are pretty darned easy firearms to work with/on and, because of this, they are easy to make mistakes with as well. Remove as little material as necessary while maintaining the proper angle on it (sear face). Clear editor. The last thing you want is to damage it so it's inoperable. Back up a step that you took, and test,.. ie,.. swap the Timney back out. This condition would be even worse if I had a round in the chamber and loaded magazine. There's too much risk of changing the angle, removing too much material, and or rounding the edges(which will result in decreasing surface area). Unlike aftermarket the factory connectors are true drop in and usually dont need adjustments. No reason to leave the plantation because the Timney would not work out in your Glock. How long are the mounting screws for the RDS? JavaScript is disabled. It now passes the recoil spring test. I put it back with the stock parts, and the issue continues. 1. While you're at it, give the drop safety button a good buffing as well. Is there something specific i should look at on the mags? Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. You can get calipers from Harbor freight, they are not the best but have a large read out display and I find them as accurate as Frankfort Arsenal digital calipers,you will use them for many gun related projects. On a defensive weapon, quite acceptable. Timney should be a little more straightforward with their instructions. I noticed this after a cleaning. Everything seemed fine at a field strip level just to oil. Did lots on it and got it running like 98%. The problem was a Ghost firing pin safely spring. With the slide off, there was visible movement in the timney part when i manipulated the trigger. SJ 40, thank you! BrianEnos.com What happens when you let the slide slam forward? Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! If it were me I would use a calipers to take some measurements of your OEM slide rail slots from front to back versus your new Suarez slide front to back,I suspect you will discover differences. Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. 3. make sure the plunger is properly installed, take the side apart and push down on the plunger. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I am pretty familiar, but I work with a Glock Advanced Armorer and even he is a bit stumped. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. 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