The spelling of the name eventually changed from Motley Crew to MOTTLEY CRU to Mtley Cre. Yes. Lee was briefly engaged to a woman named Honey. In 2018 Mr Thaler(sp) discovered ,completely incidental to an independent matter, a series of Trustees evidencing that cash laundered thru single family residences in AZ was pervasive and on going. The car then collided with an oncoming vehicle. Played off as likable yet disposable, Doc is unceremoniously fired when he brings Nikkis estranged mother to meet the angsty bassist for an ill-judged Christmastime reunion. Luckily for Thaler, the band eventually named their 1999 live album "Entertainment or Death." He clenched his hand into a fist and punched her in the mouth. Near the end, McGhee surprises Sixx by bringing his mother to the lobby of his hotel. They met at the Dennys specifically to talk about forming a new band. John Mulaney Teases Netflix Special 'Coming Soon'. Heres a look at 14 of them. . When Neil 's. Doug was a good guy and its kinda shitty he got cut from this movie, but I think this is as good a version as any. At this point, Thaler seen briefly standing by Doc at backstage door literally vanishes from the screen. "The most painful part of the film is my relationship with my mother and how I could never mend that," Sixx told Forbes. The film has Tommy Lee meeting Heather Locklear at a house party the same night that Vince Neil's drunk driving accident claimed the life of Hanoi Rocks drummer Nicholas "Razzle" Dingley. On a scale of laminated-eyebrow drama to Lemon Lady Secrets. Tom Zutaut Didnt Sign Them That Easily Doug Bell joins Russ Thaler to share his value pick to win the Honda Classic. The real Doc McGhee says that he never met Nikki Sixx's mother. Adding their two or three cents are the likes of Elektra Records boy genius Tom Zutaut, manager Doc McGhee, replacement lead singer John Corabi, and even Sylvia Rhone, a record executive who responds to the time Nikki Sixx called her the C-word in Spin magazine (and on stage) in 1998. Mick almost drowns in a beach nearby, after passing out among the waves. But Nikki didnt like his attitude and Mick Mars thought he was a hippie, which was basically a death sentence for a member of Mtley Cre. 13. Rock Candy Magazine reports that even Nikki Sixx, whose destructive tendencies were mostly aimed at himself (see: The Heroin Diaries), once managed to get himself and his manager arrested when he threw a bottle at a man's head in a bullet train from Osaka to Tokyo. Young and the Restless spoilers from actor Doug Davidson reveal he was let go from the CBS soap after more than 41 years as Paul Williams. Back in November 1981, just less than 12 months after they got together, Vince Neil, Nikki Sixx, Mick Mars and Tommy Lee were total unknowns; young, dumb and practically overflowing with cum, inhabiting the Mtley . The couple had two children together. Loudwire tells us the guitar player had a gig with his band White Horse at a nearby venue called Stone Pony but had snuck away for a bottle of tequila because the Pony's $2 shots were too expensive for his taste. As AL.com tells us, in 1985 a 13-year-old fan was partially blinded during a concert in Alabama when something possibly a chunk of dry ice from malfunctioning equipment flew into his eye. View details Hide details. Game of Thrones actor Iwan Rheon, who portrays the band's guitarist, Mick Mars, did already know how to play guitar prior to being cast. He was arrested for assaulting her and spent six months in prison. Sixx's comment about possibly embellishing the rape story in the book applies . Nikki, now sober, was turning into a perfectionist to a T. He was grilling Vince, who kept on giving him a finger. The movie shows a teenage Tommy Lee going to see Sixx play a show with his band London at a Sunset Strip club and then bumping into him afterwards at a Dennys. It was a fellow named ODean Peterson who, according to Tommy Lee, had a voice somewhere between Ian Astbury of the Cult and Klaus Meine of the Scorpions. The event happened in 1998 when the band decided to cut ties with Elektra, which was being run by Sylvia Rhone at the time, with former A&R rep Zutaut out of the picture. Indeed, Scorsese's gangland classic gets an homage when the film shows the band's original co-manager Doug Thaler simply disappear into thin air, while the idea of unreliable narrators gets a . Neil eventually rejoined the band in 1997 and Thaler was noticeably cut from Netflix's fully-authorized (yet semi-sanitized) biopic The Dirt, which Mtley Cre co-produced last year. She was diagnosed with Wilms' tumor, a kidney cancer that affects children. While the other band members undermined this new injection of creativity with a bunch of hilariously awful mistakes (like firing their manager, lawyers, and accountants while attempting to produce the record themselves), Corabi was never an issue for them, and they liked him so much they wanted to keep him around despite the 1994 album's lack of success. Along with Doc McGhee, he co-managed Mtley Cre. They kicked him out and most fans aren't even aware of his existence. This email will be used to sign into all New York sites. on with the goddamn show. No. He borrowed a knife from a neighbor and began to stab himself above his elbow, sinking the knife all the way to the bone. Though Sixx and the blinded fan were both quite amiable, the proceedings were pretty heated and difficult, and the case ultimately ended in a mistrial. Early in the film, a teenaged Nikki Sixx gets embroiled in a heated argument with his mother. They Didnt Fire Doc McGhee Over An Incident With Nikkis Estranged Mother Career Band member, songwriter Elves/Elf, Cortland, 1967-1972. Corabi ushered in a different style of songwriting and musicianship and forced the band out of their dying comfort zone. Yes. Instead, Doug Thaler was the unfortunate recipient of the faux pas. After getting high in his room, they thought it would be funny if they threw his hotel room furniture, including the TV, out the window. Owner and Founder at Cambridge Capital Partners, LLC. Okay, we totally understand why she wasn't included in The Dirt these two would have totally hijacked the movie's runtime. The Dirt movie seems to be in line with the true story, depicting this as it's been reported. But hey, give them credit for acknowledging they are changing history and literally erasing a major player. In the movie version of the Mtley Cre story, a young A&R rep from Elektra signs the band after talking to them for about 30 seconds at a bar. We want to hear it. As E Online reports, in just a handful of years they managed to become parents, cement their place as one of (if not the) most followed couples in the world, make constant waves wherever they went, inadvertently become the stars of the most famous celebrity sex tape ever, and fall out so badly that Lee was sentenced to six months in prison for spousal battery. Neil's post reads, "Breaking The Band, fing memories from a manager, Doug Thaler, who can't remember that he's the one who actually broke up the band! So. Even with Motley Crue's autobiography to guide filmmakers, it was inevitable that some events depicted in the movie would be historically inaccurate to some degree. The band makes it official in 1981. The movie focuses primarily on the first 15 years of the band, during which time both their music and debauchery reached its peak. In many ways, fact-checking a movie about Mtley Cre is a ridiculous task, especially a film that says right off the bat it is merely based on a true story. In the book: Nikki and Mick first meet at a liquor store. Yes. Let's take a week off and come back with cooler heads.' In the film, Neil hears the news via a television report, however in real life the Crue frontman found out about Sixxs passing on the radio. This movie does the same thing. Due largely in part to Neils absence, though also partially because of the mainstream's changing musical tastes, Motley Crue was a commercial failure. Its somehow 1996, 2005 and all points in between all at once. Further get in rhythm with The Dirt true story by watching the Mtley Cre music videos below, including the video for their new song 'The Dirt', as well as videos for some of their biggest hits. In many ways, fact-checking a movie about Mtley Cre is a ridiculous task, especially a film that says right off the bat it is merely "based" on a true story. In the hands of director Jeff Tremaine and adapting writers Amanda Adelson and Rich Wilkes, however, the tale of Nikki Sixx, Tommy Lee, Vince Neil and Mick Mars isnt exactly the glam-metal Wolf of Wall Street presented in the the 425-page book. However, it just so happens that Motley Crue did originally flirt with another guitarist before Mars came along. Tommy Lee and Sixx may have had pouffier hair than their onscreen counterparts, but the filmmakers went to great lengths to capture the look and vibe of the Eighties Sunset Strip scene. "I wanted the band to continue a straight hard-rock direction but they wanted to go in a blues direction," Neil explained during a 1993 interview with the LA Times. The real Mick Mars told actor Iwan Rheon, who portrays him in the film, that "it feels like your whole spine is turning into slow-drying concrete, slowly pulling you down" (Rolling Stone). 6. Wouldn't it be pretty weird if all that were built on a lie? The Dirt, directed by Jackass auteur Jeff Tremaine, . The condition manifests in severe discomfort and chronic pain. Neil avoided the band for a lot longer than the movie suggests, as they had to basically stalk him for weeks before he even agreed to an initial jam session. I dont actually recall that story in the book beyond reading it, Sixx toldRolling Stone. Randy Castillo replaces Tommy while Tommy pursues his solo project, Methods of Mayhem. John refers to his experience working on the album Mtley Cre as the best year of my life. However, after a failed tour to promote the album, record execs turn on John. They threw him out and history has basically forgotten that he ever existed. According to the Mtley Cre autobiography The Dirt, the highly explicit sex scene involving Tommy Lee (Machine Gun Kelly) did happen in real life. According to ultimateclassicrock.com, Thaler was cut from the movie in the interest of "keeping the narrative moving". Yes. It's important to note that Doc McGhee's partner, Doug Thaler, was cut from the movie. Clearwater, Florida. Still, while Anderson is noticeably absent from the film, in real life she certainly left her impression on more than one band member as Vince Neil is happy to tell everyone in his autobiography Tattoos & Tequila, Anderson briefly dated him before she got together with Lee. If youre to believe Tommy, Mick fired Robin on the spot, but Mick says he was told to do it. The movie doesn't show it, but they were only able to secure the rights after a long, grueling battle with Elektra head Sylvia Rhone. After Neil left the band, they hired John Corabi as their new singer and cut a new album that they supported with a tour. Copyright 2023 Penske Business Media, LLC. It's also a film that breaks the fourth wall and tells the audience that things didn't happen quite as they're being presented. On his way to a nearby liquor store with Razzle, drunk driver Vince gets in a car accident, killing the Hanoi Rocks member and causing brain damage in the two passengers of the other car involved. There, Nikki pleads with Vince to rejoin Mtley Cre, dubbing the group a family and apologizing for not being there when Skylar passed. As we said the report was given to Gov Doug Ducey in May of 2022 so he has been made aware. Creative financing, Investment consultant, hard money lending. Mick is already a father by the time Mtley Cre kicks off, and is romantically linked to a woman referred to as The Thing and a backup singer named Emi Canyn. In the book: Record-company prodigy Tom Zutaut helps sign Mtley Cre after catching their show by chance, even though hes a mere sales assistant at Elektra Records at the time. Following the huge success of 1989s Dr. Feelgood album, Motley Crue began working on new music. (Corabi is played by Anthony Vincent, an actual heavy metal singer best known for his 10 Second Songsseries.). In 1978, Sixx was working at a liquor store when Mars walked in. Lee is shown punching his girlfriend on a tour bus in the Eighties after she repeatedly calls his mother a cunt and stabs him in the shoulder with a pen. However, at least according to the book Cemetery Gates: Saints and Survivors of the Heavy Metal Scene, which describes the story in detail, this one is a FACT. A lot of laughter, a lot of crying, a lot of shock. John Corabi's fate in Motley Crue is that of the classic "new guy" fans never really warmed up to the new singer, and when Vince Neil returned to the fold Corabi was quietly phased out. Zutaut serves as the physical embodiment of the entire Elektra label in The Dirt. We met him at the Santa Monica Civic Center after a show. However, this chance encounter never led anywhere, though by sheer chance, the guitarist would later join his young drinking buddy's band. When thats shot down, Tommy offers a crude drawing of penises to support his idea, The Fourskins. But its when Mick writes down Motley Crew and says, Ive been waiting a long time for this day, that everything clicks. For example, a scene that takes place at the start of Mtley Cre's Theatre of Pain tour features a sad looking Vince Neil being visited by his wife, Sharise, and their daughter, Skylar. He was ordered to pay $2.6 million in restitution. Is it possible to know whats truth and whats fiction in the Mtley Cre story, regardless of the medium? "We had the final veto on the script, and we OK'd everything because we thought it was telling our story," said Sixx. And Ozzy Osbourne (Tony Cavalero) reenacts that time he snorted a line of ants and licked up his own urine. McGhee was fired by the band following the scuffle. A timeline of the (alleged) drama involving Olivia Wilde, Harry Styles, and Florence Pugh. The saga of rock band Mtley Cre is one of the most dramatic in rock n roll history, mixing on-tour shenanigans with episodes of death and self-destruction. However, O'Dean still makes occasional appearances onstage in Los Angeles as a Mtley Cre cover artist.In The Dirt movie, the band first meets Vince Neil at a backyard party where he sings Billy Squier's "My Kind of Lover" as a group of women swoon over him. The High Notes were the one who got cut-off, or eliminated, first. According to the true story, the band first met with Vince Neil at The Starwood nightclub in West Hollywood, and it took several weeks of stalking him before he agreed to a jam session. The movie cuts straight from a tearful group hug at the fictional Vince Neil bar reunion right to their real-life manager Allen Kovac (playing himself) knocking on their dressing room doors shortly before a big arena concert. Cut some pale lettuce leaves from a lettuce head and put the cut end in red or blue-colored water. The trial itself was a less casual affair. Or when Nikki pranks John Corabi on tour by dousing his hotel-room door in hair spray and setting it on fire. In real life, the band created their own label, Leathr Records, solely to put out their own music before they ever met Zutaut (played by SNLs Pete Davidson). If youre curious about how The Dirt memoir differs from its new Netflix counterpart (featuring Pete Davidson as an A&R rep and sudden movie star Machine Gun Kelly as Tommy Lee), read on. It is implied that this is right after Vince rejoined, but theyre basically in their 2005 reunion tour outfits. Not all of them. According to band manager Doug Thaler in The Dirt, Vince Neil's self-sabotaging behavior in the early '90s threatened his position in Mtley Cre. I'm addicted to drugs but have huge animosity because she abandoned me." Jessica was the one performing the lewd sexual act in the opening scene of the movie.Like in the movie, Honey later began to repeatedly call Lee's mother a c*nt. The furniture smashed into two brand-new Mercedes-Benzes that were parked below. They fired McGhee on the spot and went with Thaler on his own, at least until the Corabi album bombed. Instead of a demonic, outlandish rock star, the locals found a friendly, super-famous, nice guy who hung out at local music joints chatting with small-time cover band musicians and casually offering Lifesaver candies to fans. In 1987, Nikki Sixx overdosed on heroin and was declared legally dead on the way to the hospital. The most glaring character omission from The Dirt is arguably Pamela Anderson, whose turbulent relationship with drummer Tommy Lee would probably have sparked a lawsuit or nine had it been featured in the movie. On Dec. 23, 1987, Sixx was pronounced dead due to a heroin overdose. Anderson blamed him for giving her hepatitis C. Seeing that all of this scandalous drama got far more attention than the band's music in the 1990s, it's hard to believe that she was omitted from the movie, unless it was at the direct request of Tommy Lee and/or they're planning to do a sequel. Skylar endured six operations and extensive chemotherapy and radiation treatments over the course of the next four months, but it didn't stop the disease. ), In the book: The universe of Mtley Cre contains a constantly rotating roster of randomly assorted rock stars. It just wasn't sounding good to me. He later added that his departure from the band was "the last thing (I) thought would happen. Though Motley Crue went on to record an album with John Corabi on lead vocals, the material from those Neil rehearsals never saw the light of day. Perhaps Thaler achieved some level of relief when the band finally used Entertainment or Deathas the title to their 1999 live release. But it happened at the US Festival, not the Forum. The highly impressed Sixx hung on until the end, and the two resumed talking. "The band has lots of regrets," Nikki Sixx said in a Build Series interview. It's one of those times where you kind of hope the person was actually lying, you know? It's a form of arthritis that mainly affects the spine and pelvis. Pushing all those questions aside, The Dirt (which hit Netflix on Friday) actually gets a lot of the bands history right. In an interview with Reuters, Mars summed up the negotiations. Doc never came to this filthy shithole. We poured through various moments in the film and found 10 worth fact checking: As The Dirt begins in the early days of Motley Crue, there is a scene featuring a borderline incompetent guitarist auditioning for the band. Based on the bestselling autobiography from Mtley Cre, the film is an unflinching tale of success and excess as four misfits rise from the streets of Hollywood to the heights of international fame. Motley Crue's manager does have a small scene in the beginning of the movie, but quickly exits and never appears again. The song had particularly vicious lyrics, and Motley Crue decided to double down in the video, which depicted a doomed, destructive relationship that ends when the man thrashes their home and kills the woman. The new Mtley Cre movie 'The Dirt' (available on NetFlix) is surprisingly accurate, but it still gets at least 13 things wrong. Unfortunately, this isn't quite the case. The Weeknd responded to a Rolling Stone story claiming the show is a rape fantasy with a clip of his character calling the mag irrelevant. Voice-overs express that over time the Cre shit on a lot of people and did things that we regret every single day but somehow, were still here, in it together thats fate. He became Randy Rhoads' replacement in Quiet Riot, played with Dokken, and has fronted a number of bands of his own. Fact-Checking Mtley Cre's Netflix Movie 'The Dirt' - Rolling Stone He put together a rap-metal act called Methods of Mayhem, and started hobnobbing and collaborating with artists such as Snoop Dogg, Busta Rhymes, Wu-Tang Clan member U-God, and even Limp Bizkit's Fred Durst. Mars then turns to the camera and says, This didnt actually happen. The film stars Douglas Booth, Colson Baker, Daniel Webber, and Iwan Rheon. Perhaps Thaler achieved some. The band didn't break up because of me racing. Their marriage ended in divorce in 1998. The relevant story lines include but are not limited to: At the start of his career, Vince marries a woman named Beth Lynn, and then marries a mud wrestler and model named Sharise Ruddell, who gives birth to their child Skylar. All of this makes it seem like The Dirt fearlessly shows the band members' most violent instincts, but in reality, the movie (perhaps wisely) pumps the brakes before showing just how comfortable every Crue crewman (save Mars) has historically been when it comes to hurting other people. And we see nothing of Vince moving in with Rob Lowe after leaving Mtley Cre in 1992, when, according to Vince, the two of us went crazy., The most obvious cinematic oversight, however, is the films decision to delete the time Tommy and Nikki allegedly sexually assaulted a drunk woman. In the movie: Tom Zutaut (good ol Pete Davidson) appears as an amalgamation of different executives, sometimes clashing with manager Doc McGhee (when Elektra is trying to get them to finish their album Theatre of Pain and get back on the road) and later Nikki (when Tom tells Mtley Cre they wont do good on their record deal and will be retaining the rights to the bands songs). As the straight man to their antics, Doc is shown handcuffing Tommy to a bed at the end of a montage that details a wild day in his life, which includes Tommy snorting his infamous Zombie Dust a mix of sedative Halcion and cocaine. It happened when they were in a limo, not a bus. They don't own the rights anymore, though Nikki Sixx signed their catalog over to Downtown Music Publishing in 2016. Neil was driving drunk and going close to 65mph in a 25mph zone when the car went into a 35-foot slide sideways after hitting a patch of water on the road. Home lending. To be fair, Motley Crue manager Doug Thaler is technically seen in The Dirt. In the movie: Nikki overdoses on heroin, but an eager paramedic who knows the rock star by name refuses to let Nikki die in his ambulance. Mars even drunkenly gave Sixx his phone number. Also, there's the fact that the catalyst for this change was an "I must do something with my life" epiphany during his six-month prison sentence for assaulting Pamela Anderson, so yeah, sounds like something Lee might have vetoed from the script pretty early on. Its a powerful scene, capturing the turmoil of Sixxs home life, while also showcasing the intense extremes he was willing to go to get what he wanted (a character trait that would serve him later in Motely Crue). But Vince did have sex with Zutauts girlfriend that year. The band's members detail as much in the 2001 book The Dirt: Confessions of the World's Most Notorious Rock Band, co-written by Neil Strauss, which, after nearly a decade, is finally receiving a cinematic adaptation from . Unlike the film, Tom Zutaut had no involvement in any of this. When he initially approached the band, they were extremely suspicious and made him buy them many free meals throughout a long courtship. Sixx says he dealt with the situation by writing this dark song, playing it to his ex-girlfriend, and walking out of the door after she started crying. The video is shot in the matter-of-fact style of news clips, and it did not go over well with MTV executives, who banned it from the channel. Though Tom appears with the band for a few years after that, hes out of the picture before 1989s Dr. Feelgood. 2023 Vox Media, LLC. As we analyzed the facts vs. the fiction in the movie, we learned that according to Tommy Lee, this happened in real life. "Mtley Cre say something about the fact that I snorted a line of ants one time," said Ozzy. Ozzy Osbourne has always claimed to have no memory of the famous story in The Dirt movie and book where he sniffs a line of ants in front of the band. Netflix's The Dirt doesn't hesitate to show us some of Motley Crue's more inspired rock star behavior. 7. However, his appearance lasts for a blink of an eye, and while the band admits he's a great guy, they then remove him from the movie so they're both represented by Thaler's co-manager, Doc McGhee. When Mtley Cre first went into the studio to record their earliest demos, Vince Neil wasnt yet their singer. Still in need of a lead singer, Tommy suggests the trio attend a party where his old buddy Vince is performing. There was a sex tape. Neil's blood alcohol level was 0.17, well above California's then-legal limit of 0.10. The band wanted to make another record with Corabi and only met with Neil very reluctantly at the urging of their managers. 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